Is this possible? Go to Solution. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Assembly features are features that show up in the assembly drawing and not in the part file. Besides. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. Use update2 document iLogic command. Is that an only Inventor Pro function? You may also include or exclude sketches, work geometry, and parameters. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Here's an example of opening a STEP file (which I know is an assembly) and saving the assembly and its parts to a single location. Let me walk through the process of updating mass prop. This sounds like a data management issue. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Standard parts and iParts about your issue and find the best support option save these pieces a. This is very helpful when for example, dealing with printed circuit board assemblies. Report 1 Like Reply Message 3 of 7 cwhetten in reply to: JavaLodge The mass issue occurs if we changed some sub-part in assembly (assembly being released), then it always wants to compute, which is logical since we would need to save (quick change) whole structure from that part above. I have been trying the Document.SaveAs function with the SaveCopyFlag as both True, and False but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Drawings!). Somehow update mass does not run properly on top assembly (it is still enabled after saving, while on other documents is not). I also like the replies you give "In General" and try to understand what is different sometimes between the theory and the practice. One more thing is that the mass is also written even if the file is read-only, and that is not correct if you use a release process. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. A geometric constraint is applied (by default) between the selected face and the face created from the new sketch. All the components must be at the same level within a single parent assembly. It was also set the same in example above. With the geometry projected finish the sketch and extrude the feature in the part. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. It's just what you're after, I think. Optionally, select a built-in preset to use. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. I'm open to suggestions for doing this another way, I just need a way to create an exploded view from components already in place but in separate assemblies. The iProperties command is available for in-place editing of an assembly as well as in-place editing of a part. A derived assembly (not in LT) component originates from an assembly file and may contain parts, subassemblies, and derived parts. The elements under the Solid Bodies or Surface Bodies folders. Most often when I'm doing this I'm removing subassembly_A and subassembly_B from the top level assembly, so I delete them from the assembly at this point. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. Step 1: Open Inventor and import assemblies from SOLIDWORKS actual assembly and allowed modifications. Check out the derived part tool. They are added to the assembly and placed in the Model States Substitutes folder. Then you can promote the components from the copies of A and B, then demote them into a new subassembly C. This will remove the components from the copied subassemblies, but since they are only copies, you still have your originals intact and all is well. So in affect the only changes that are saved are to subassembly_C and the top level assembly. Changes in a model state affect the envelope size. Solved by JDMather. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. The part renaming follows this pattern: "Part[sequence number]:[instance number]" which yields "Part1:1", "Part2:1", and so on. Hey, yeah and MLT file have some more edit possibilities to edit but stil not perfect, any suggestions what kind of file best to be using if you dont beed any connectivity to assembly and at the same time very good to edit? Go to Solution. Can't find what you're looking for? The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Go to Solution. Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Can't find what you're looking for? Four built-in presets are provided, plus you can create your own. Or select "Break Link" to permanently break the dependency. Software installation, registration & licensing part resides with the assembly file > Export > CAD format save. Create and save your assembly Open a new part file Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Represents the selected component in the derived part as a bounding box and creates a body from the bounding box shape. In the Derived Assembly dialog box, assembly components appear in a hierarchy. A derived assembly may be a scaled, mirrored, or simplified version of the original. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. If required, turn off the Show All Objects check box to display only exported elements in the list. save assembly and all parts ? To specify the body or bodies to include, expand the Solid Bodies folder and use the Status button to include or exclude bodies. Activate one of the components/part file in the assembly where the feature appears Create a sketch on the active part file. Changes in design views do not affect envelope size. Click Options to specify the representations to use in the derived component and then click OK to close the File Open Options dialog box. This is the default option. There are 3 views of the BOM: Model, Structured, and Parts only (you can refer to BOM 102 and BOM 103 for more) It always reflects the entire assembly and its current state. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. The mass need to be recomputed. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2016, Inventor 2016, & Product Design Suite 2016. I'm starting with a STEP file (from a vendor). If one of the iMate participants is a bounding box, it is a new body and the face is no longer available. Part now has mass updated, but assembly does not. I fully agree that this is one of the bigger problems regarding"Dirty files" files that need a save. One idea I had was to save copies of subassembly A and subassembly B. I'm Inventor has a similar feature. How to convert an Inventor Assembly to Part? I have lurked around for quite a bit on the forums, and have learned so much already just from observing. There are many other application options that have similarconsequences! The Simplify command is used to both create and edit simplified parts. Selects element for inclusion in the derived part. This problem has nothing do to with above discussion. Thanks in advance. Create a simplified part in an assembly using the Simplify command. For example, a setting of zero visibility means that components that are completely hidden in any view will be removed. I know from the title it might look like I just want to create a subassembly from parts already in an assembly, but it's a little more complicated than that. To edit the simplified substitute: To translate this article, select a language. I need to dig deep again to find the reason again since it was already addressed in 2011 with the release of Inventor 2012. If the component does not intersect the derived part, the result is no solid. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Then I click the Save button while in the top level assembly and set subassembly_A and subassembly_B so that they will not save. I tried that tool but that's not what I wanted to do. Right-click the Substitute you want to edit and click, In the browser, right-click the substitute model and click, In the browser, right-click the and select. In Solidworks, there is an option to save an assembly as a part. If you must relocate the part later, you can delete the constraint. More information about creating simplified part in: To Combine Components into Simplified Part Hey, yes and no. Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Ask the community or share your knowledge. This option allows the part to resize or change position if the constraining parameters or components change. RMB on the derive node in the model browser and select "Suppress Link" to temporally break the part's dependency on the assembly file. This options should at least save proper mass, if you save it once and release it, but it does not, if it is not saved correctly as you described and as in above pictures. Although there is no CAD model in our template, a step file should have been created. Try it for yourself-- I just did. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Report 0 Likes Reply 6 REPLIES Message 2 of 7 jhackney1972 You may still have to fix a couple of constraints, as promoting and demoting can do some funky things with existing constraints (Inventor does its best to read your mind to know what you want it to do with the constraints, but sometimes it gets it wrong). You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. Choose from. Use the Simplify command to reduce the content within an assembly by removing components, features, and output a simplified part file. Items marked with this symbol are ignored in updates to the derived part. Can anybody explain why this happens or it is a bug? Hi! Creating an in-place part has the same result as inserting a previously created part file. Solved by cwhetten. How take an Autodesk Inventor assembly and simply it to a single part file to one solid body to simplify the modeling. Select or hover over "File" then select "Save As." Add Tip Ask Question Download Step 20: Save Assembly An active selector has a blue highlight at the bottom of the control. You can also use it as a way to link parameters, sketches, or scale geometry from part or assembly files. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. To attempt to remove the update (s) and reinstall them per this Autodesk article, get a full download of the update from your Autodesk Account. The selected and all child browser nodes. If required, select the check box to mirror the derived part feature from the base part. Will this have any affect on saving as a new subassembly? Either you save or you don't. Go to Tools -> App Options -> Save -> "Mass Prop Update", "Implicit Update", or "Recomputable Update" -> set it to Yes. By doing this we have reduced a lot of our Vault/Inventor related issues. Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. ). This is the default option. You can create a part or assembly while working in an existing assembly. Regards, Igor. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Go to Solution. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. @johnsonshiueCan you please again take a look at the behavior. Use command manageriLogic command to update mass (synchronous - important, otherwise it does not work!). If needed edit the sketch and add dimensions in each part. What exactly do you mean by "a solid body where I can't change anything?" save the assembly as SAT file using Save Copy As. Go to Solution. I'm not just dealing with two subassemblies. Inventor Pro 2022.2.1 | Windows 10 Home 21H2, Mine steps has connectivity i dont know why, my step files some times need whole assebly in order to resolve the components, i an not using vault though. In the Open dialog box, browse to the part file (IPT) to use as the base part or component (not available in Inventor LT), and click Open. To my opinion it should either work in Inventor and In an environment with Vault to. There are quite afew options for copying designs. The option is not available with the Master design view. Use one of these methods to specify the size: Click the arrow at the end of the value field to select a recently used value. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Select the Hole patching options if required. At assembly level, the mass is aggregated from the parts (per quantity per Reference). Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. If the Update Physical Properties on Save options is turned on, the affected files should be prompted to save. I'm assuming you're doing this in VBA. Try it and see if you get the same results. The .Save2 will save without a confirmation prompt, unlike .Save. You select geometry to add, subtract, or exclude from the resulting derived component. I can loop through all the referenced documents and save them to the same directory as the .iam file, but when I save the actual .iam it still saves a copy of everything to the Documents/Inventor. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. I can upload the .stl version if you would need that. This option works, but only if you save it few times (at least 2), BUT if any sub-model is changed after top assembly is released, it will always need to update for the new mass, except if you "quick change" whole structure from changed part and above, which can be really time consuming and not effective. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Recommendation: Position and mate at least one of the components before you begin, then select that component first. I managed to solve this problem with iLogic: Taking iLogic solution into the account, I came to few reasons why this happens: I hope I explained it understandable. Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum, Select the Derive tool in the Create section of the 3D Model ribbon, Navigate to your saved assembly file on disk. Hello all. option, then open it in. I've done a bit of research on it and I don't believe this particular question has been asked before. Additionally, some of the parts I need to do this with are design accelerator parts. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. A STEP file maintains the BREP geometry of the original. Can't find what you're looking for? Hope you understand the issue here and maybe it is more or less only needed when using Vault and released files. Disabled components remain included, however. Check your SavePath folder. When I use the Shrinkwrap feature, it turns everything into surfaces. I could be wrong but I don't think this is a bug. I don't want to post any files here from my actual project. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). Use the From To or To extents options for Extruded features. (Suppressed components are excluded; this cannot be changed. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. All other situations are more or less not that critical. It seems that the most logical way to approach this would be to use promote and demote. I forgot to mention a couple things which was rather stupid, because they are important details. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2018, Inventor 2018, & Product Design Suite 2018. - Autodesk Community - Inventor Inventor Forum Welcome to Autodesk's Inventor Forums. What I have is one major assembly, consisting of a collection of parts as well as some subassemblies. When I go to save the new assembly I get told Older Version file, and saving will convert the files tot he current version. Thanks again everyone, you really helped. Creates the smallest file on disk. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. In Solidworks, when I open it, all the parts are solids, when I save it as a part, it remains a solid? Ask the community or share your knowledge. A STL file approximates the original model using mesh geometry. Before you create the part, in the Application Options dialog, Assembly tab, select the check box for Enable Associative Edge/Loop Geometry Projection During In-Place Modeling. Solved by SEC_CAD. I've only been using Inventor for a few months but have rapidly grown to like it. Solved by jjstr8. When I've had a need to do something like this, I simply create a new subassembly_C in the top level assembly, and then save the top level assembly. Creates a single solid body derived part with seams between planar faces. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Create a new part, then use the 3D Model, Create, Derive command to create one solid body including all the components you want. Click the Other tab to select sketches, work geometry, and parameters. Then I simply promoted the components I needed. I have never done this and I have to say that I don't remember seeing this question posted here before. The type of file and the method you use to open the iProperties dialog box determines the available tabs. Now it works just fine. From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. Auto-detect locates and highlights the components. Create the new empty assembly and save it. Is it possible to save the 2d drawings also ? Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. I tried using pack and go on an assembly. Also if the file is already released this mass is alwasys written tot the part or assembly without checking if the file is editable in Vault terms. I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. For each of the listed feature types specify which you want to remove and the way you want to remove them: Substitutes are model states based on a simplified model. The Simplify command is not accessible when the model is in Express mode. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. When you click Create and select a plane on which to sketch, the part environment is activated. Excludes element in the derived part. Hi All,i have the same issue,but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated,is solidworks you do it in one "click"this is so useful when you need to convert assembly to simple part. It seems update on physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies) setting does not work properly. To translate this article, select a language. I did try that break link command and that works great. Click the measure diagonal bounding box button, Click the selection priority you want to use. Then place them in a new assembly (just a temporary one). As a Drafter you will prepare production drawing documents based on sales or production requests. Save assembly (and all parts involved) to specific location using API. You can override any value. If you just Save As to STL format, what do you get? This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Usually, you set this option once as a workflow preference. Selects component for inclusion in the derived part. The relationships between the leftover parts would be retained, though you may need to apply new relationships if certain parts were held together by removed parts. If the base part is a multi-body part with more than one body visible, no bodies are displayed in the graphics screen. What I did was save this assembly a new one, and then delete everything I didn't need. Solved by BDCollett. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. Is it possible to convert an assembly into a parts file? Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. It updates the mass before update is executed (asynchronous? Click the down arrow to select an origin work plane as the mirror plane. To begin, create a part file. If the Y-axis is perpendicular to the Top plane, the model is rotated so the Inventor Z-axis is perpendicular to the View Cube Top plane. i have found why my steps had connectivity to assembly, because when i imported them i kept reference model on. In principle every feature; Option and tool that is available in Inventor should work with no problem in a Vault Environmenttoo. What I can remember is that the Mass property shown is stored on two different places internally and there sometimes it goes wrong. Perhaps you need a dwf or pdf representation. Whenever a part geometry is changed, the mass will need to be recomputed. 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