MICHAEL MEANEY: Known as transcription factors. Radiolab is on YouTube! Accuracy and availability may vary. A really good radiolab about this called Inheritance. DESTINY HARRIS: And that could have very easily have been one of us. Kick off certain hormonal systems. Well, I guess I was thinking we could just start at the beginning. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These people are paying millions of dollars to take care of your children!]. What exactly happens between 9 to 12 that makes this big difference? SAM KEAN: The sperm carries these marks to the next generation. She got one. You have to do that for five hours a day for six consecutive days. His example with humans was a blacksmith. Were just talking about toad, I thought. It's just a mind crushing tedium. She was totally an oops kid. JAD: So imagine the DNA in that brain cell. You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". He's not even eating at all. Okay, you want to say bye? Three of them ended up in other foster homes and seem to have done pretty well, but one of them DESTINY HARRIS: Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I didn't say I'm God. You just haven't evolved for this and there's no way you can, at least not quickly. ROBERT: Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. ROBERT: Well, so here's the thing. JAD: Hey, wait. I'm Executive Director and Founder of National Advocates for Pregnant Women. JAD: What you see in the records, is that one year PEJK MALINOVSKI: 100 liters. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. So. He hit the lecture circuit and he hit it big. Even if it helps, it's horrifying. You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. PEJK MALINOVSKI: What does that mean, he was an idiot? He is passionate about scholarly writing, World History, and Political sciences. JAD: So, in the end, where do you come down on this? CARL ZIMMER: He hit the lecture circuit and he hit it big. Radio Lab: Into the Brain of a Liar March 6, 2008 We all lie once a day or so, according to most studies. That the licking is changing the baby's DNA? ROBERT: Is that what you're saying? She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. BARBARA HARRIS: And when I found out the bill didn't pass, I just thought, "I have to come up with something else. And in1923, he actually comes to England. Maybe they'd try and jump back out, but it was still hot so they'd have to jump back in. ], Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], I didn't say I'm God. Thank you so much for your interest in Radiolab. They suddenly had to get by on a tiny fraction of the food that they were used to. VERONICA ZIMMER: My name is Veronica Zimmer. Radiolab is an outstanding radio show broadcast out of New York City on WNYC. She's 20 months old. They wanted to see basically the effects of starvation on multiple generations. Radiolab: Parasites Transcript For copyright reasons we can't provide a transcript of the WNYC Radiolab feature on parasites. Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. RADIOLAB Podcast "Inheritance" Homework Assignment Name: Rohan Desai PSUID: 9 6241 8529 Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. Radiolab is on YouTube! And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? And I just felt like it was in one of those moments that contains everything that's good about us as people. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? Hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser, Radiolab is a podcast known for using innovative sound design to ask deep questions and investigative journalism to get the answers. Like have you ever had one of those moments where you suddenly are your dad and it catches you off guard? I don't have the biggest boobies in the world. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? Whole lifetime of stretching. Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. Who are they? And when methyl groups stick to that part of the DNA, the maternal instinct is effectively turned off. What do I know? But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. If . I mean that's a different kind of odds, but its DESTINY HARRIS: Hi, this is Destiny Harris. Go to him. Radiolab 50.3K subscribers Subscribe 29 1.5K views 6 months ago On this episode, the case that pushed one Supreme Court justice to a nervous breakdown, brought a boiling feud to a head, and. Harris says her program, children requiring a caring community, or CRACK], Can prevent thousands of unwanted births to drug-addicted women. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Yes, yes. BARBARA HARRIS: I mean, I'm married to a Black man. A lot of times that's not the case. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. Birth mother's name was actually the same as me, so, Barbara. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" PAT: Because when a woman uses heroin while she's pregnant, the fetus gets hooked on it too. But it failed. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: She's offering $200. Yes, no, okay, move on to the next cage, yes, no? We had an expression here, "Dig where you stand." Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. It's against the rules. The little baby that we keep hearing in the background of everything. In my naive mind, I didn't have a clue what a big deal this was. You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? They lived longer lives, something like 30 years on average. Then World War One came and that disrupted everything. She was thinking Can I offer these women money to use birth control? So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? JAD: That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. JAD: What can't you? Sincerely, Jennifer.". [chuckles]. Yes, he was retarded. But a year later, the social worker called again. JAD: Thanks to Olov Bygren, reporter Pejk Malinovski and KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Karin Borgkvist Ljung, and I'm a senior archivist at the National Archive in Marieberg in Stockholm. BARBARA HARRIS: They were seven and eight at the time. Darwin's theory would have said, you know, 90% of the toads are going to die. And he said, "Barbara, I'm not buying a school bus." CARL ZIMMER: But but theres like some hope here because JAD: Okay, all right, this is interesting. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. His example with humans was a blacksmith. She filled out the forms went BARBARA HARRIS: Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. These were kids that didn't end up with Barbara? Or did I somehow learn that? Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. I'm Carl Zimmer's daughter. And one of them is called the thyroid system. ROBERT: They could eat twice, three times as much. JAD: These are four kids from the same birth mother? He works at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden where he studies population data. In RadioLab a laboratory setting is used, in which the player receives radioactive stones that emit alpha, beta and gamma radiation particles. Do you know anything about the other four? Most toads, he says, love to stay in the water. ROBERT: Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. Full transcript: Radiolab co-host Jad Abumrad on Recode Media The new season of More Perfect, a spinoff show from Radiolab, began airing Oct. 2. That's my little girl. Environmental Biology Radiolab - Inheritance Due to Haiku by Monday March 3rd Name: Dmitry Matveev Date: And he was going through withdrawal. PAT: All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. Push yourself and you got it.". And I think that no, I didn't plan on it but I wouldn't take her back for anything because she made me better. And Barbara found herself returning to a thought she'd kind of always had. ", SAM KEAN: "They can respond to the environment.". That's really impressive. And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. DESTINY HARRIS: Honestly, I think it never seemed like she was anything but my real mom, if that makes sense. Kalia came too. Suddenly you're marked. PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. So heres the backstory. The results make it probable that our descendants will learn more quickly what we know well, will execute more easily what we have accomplished with great effort, will be able to withstand what injured us almost to the point of death. BARBARA HARRIS: Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? JAD: So heres the backstory. This is nice and quiet. I said, "This will be the last one. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. I mean, when you look at the records, you don't see huge spikes in mortality. How was this woman allowed", "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". So the great rat nightmare comes true where the females become their mothers. Right away, people accused her of targeting women at their weakest moment and enabling their drug abuse. One parent stretching isnt going to do anything, see thats the bummer of Darwinian evolution. No, not brain cells. JEAN KEAN: My name is Jean Kean. We all know this, that there are cycles of abuse or whatever. She's 22 now and she's never even met her birth mom. JAD: To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. What does that mean, he was an idiot? JAD: Don't you see, somehow the mother's tongue is getting all the way down in there and going [mumbles] and messing with the baby's DNA. LULU: In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. JAD: Even if it helps, it's horrifying. CARL ZIMMER: Around 1908, he started publishing all of these results. I don't know where she gets that from. According to Frances, it's not just sitting up there perfectly preserved, it's in the middle of the cell, it's crowded. We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over time. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. JAD: Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes MICHAEL MEANEY: A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: You don't think that they should have their children back?]. Not only that. Okay, I'm here. And Destiny says she doesn't really care DESTINY HARRIS: I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics? Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. ROBERT: You cant say that. You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? CARL ZIMMER: She carries your kids for nine months and you're like, "That poor male toad.". I have to be creative.". Apparently, those grandkids SAM KEAN: Were less prone to diabetes. And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. So he actually went to Vienna. JAD: So then over the next 70 some odd years, Lamarck basically became the poster boy for, like, the big dumb idea, the idea that you want to believe in but that you know isn't true. Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? 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